Sex and love, related or totally separate? by fly on the wall on The Pipeline at IAC

Sex and love, related or totally separate?
I believe 102% of women would say they are deeply related, but only 28% of men think love and sex are fairly analogous (and 70% of those are wimps). Just a joke there, don't get bent out of shape, guys!

Do men think about sex with women they know they'd probably hate? Yes. I'd probably even have sex with Ann Coulter but I'd have to put on a Bill Clinton mask during this, for the proper kinky effect. I'd also make her look into my (Clinton's eyes) and say "Ronald Reagan was incompetent" and "We need a Democratic Congress", the latter of which would surely cause me to climax, sick fuck that I am.

Personally, while I don't necessarily have to do this, I could if I wanted to easily isolate the 2 completely and to be totally honest, there have been times in my life where I've totally loved a woman but needed to put that out of my mind while having sex with her. Sometimes the 2 are in the same ballyard, if you take 6 hits of Ecstacy beforehand. Okay that was just kidding too, I've never had ecstacy, either the drug or the feeling. :~D

Is love an aphrodisiac? Women almost always say that it is, however, sometimes love comes into play in regards to sex cause it might serve as a prerequisite for feeling comfortable enough to tell the girl what turns you on. Then she might not love you anymore so watchout, your twisted sexuality might have to be a secret you keep between you and your collection of porno, in that folder containing your evil self. Come on now, can sex between a man and a woman in consent ever be truly dirty? Yes. It may hurt her to know the thoughts you are thinking while you're having sex. Women need to understand that just because that's where the man's head is at at the time (no pun intended). this doesn't mean he doesn't love the fuck out of her. What it means, ladies, is... really... you may think you're 'making love' with the man you fell in love with, the guy who brought you flowers earlier that day, but what you don't know is - that guy has been ejected from the room by his sex organ which has complete power to take over the show. Don't blame the man for this. That evil one that in church they call God or Jesus or whoever rigged it up so the man's penis can stand up and take charge of the sweet guy you love, like a puppeteer. In addition, carnal knowledge is out there to be absorbed and the more you take in, the less innocence will be in the room. So guys, beware of fucking the love out of her, paying attention is crucial. I truly resent whoever created man because it is they who have have caused this chasm in spirit, so men are always in this predicament of having to manage their sex organs like their harddrive, because their penises are clearly determined to sabotage their love life.

Putting at risk a love tryst you have going on in whatever form it might take to see out your own unique sexual desires is just not smart. I can also tell you from experience that putting at risk a sex tryst you have going on to pursue love or friendship will absolutely cause you to destroy the sexual component.

I hope I've straightened all this out for everyone reading this. Think of me as a guide... to your demise!!!

Actually the above essay was only written for an excuse to introduce this really dumb bit where I substitute the word sex for love in the popular song, enjoy!

by the Supremes:

I need sex, sex
To ease my mind
I need to find, find someone to call mine
But mama said

You cant hurry sex
No, you just have to wait
She said sex dont come easy
Its a game of give and take

You cant hurry sex
No, you just have to wait
You got to trust, give it time
No matter how long it takes

But how many heartaches
Must I stand before I find some sex
To let me live again
Right now the only thing
That keeps me hangin on
When I feel my strength, yeah
Its almost gone
I remember mama said:

You cant hurry sex
No, you just have to wait
She said sex dont come easy
It's a

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RedRobin

1/29/2008 3:32:43 AM

.....I think that mostly (moistly?) sex and love are very integrated and at other times they are quite separate. Sex can be, ideally for me, an expression of love but even if it is sometimes purely sexual, it's usually within the context of a degree of love.

Women have just as many so-called "dirty" thoughts as men do!!

The ideal is the whole integrated package of Love, Sex, and Friendship. Relationships don't last without all three.

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fly on the wall

1/29/2008 3:54:04 AM

"Women have just as many so-called "dirty" thoughts as men do!!"

Speak for yourself. I looked into this awhile back and it was determined I have more dirty thoughts in a day than the entire female population of 3 major cities. I'm not going to tell you which ones they are though as this would be disclosing too much info about myself.

Anyway Red Robin, I'm glad to hear you're friends with your blow-up doll, otherwise you might be lonely. :~D

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Tony Vani and Debbie Hoskin

1/29/2008 4:04:26 AM

I always suspected this about men! Let them have their nasty little thoughts. Who am I to be the mind police?

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RedRobin

1/29/2008 4:30:34 AM

fly - Your comments give away the fact that you are just an immature boy with little experience of real or longlasting relationships with women. Just how old are you?

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fly on the wall

1/29/2008 4:36:45 AM ---- Updated 1/29/2008 4:38:34 AM

You have a blow-up doll and you're calling *me* immature?? How gauche. :~D

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RedRobin

1/29/2008 5:14:03 AM

fly - I do not have a blow-up doll and never have had.

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fly on the wall

1/29/2008 6:31:25 AM

Well I'm here to tell you that you're missin' out!

:~D

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fly on the wall

2/18/2008 2:04:53 AM

I've been thinking about this topic a bit more lately. I've concluded that I have partitions in the harddrive of my brain.

There is the love side, which does include flirting and innuendos, but never morphs naturally into I am going to get my rocks off now, just try and stop me.

Then there is the sex side, which starts out looking for that and is single-minded about achieving that purpose. Love really isn't in that picture, in fact, I suspect my sex organ is incapable of love. :~D

This makes my life difficult for me because women do not have this division - when a woman starts to admire you deeply, sex immediately becomes a part of the relationship. I can't seem to think of the 2 things in the same sentence though.

If you love somebody a lot, you want to bring them pleasure of course but do you necessarily want to indulge in them for your own pleasure? When I love, I become selfless, it's all about giving. Of course the woman wants to give you pleasure too, but still, as my pleasure comes to the fore, I am an animal. I don't want to inflict that animal on this perfect angel that I love.

This is quite the cunundrum. Man vs. beast, all in the same brain.

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